diff --git a/libsrc/core/python_ngcore.cpp b/libsrc/core/python_ngcore.cpp
index a0810ca6..f60e40d3 100644
--- a/libsrc/core/python_ngcore.cpp
+++ b/libsrc/core/python_ngcore.cpp
@@ -40,7 +40,7 @@ namespace ngcore
 
     if (py::isinstance<py::list>(value))
       {             
-        py::list vdl(value);
+        auto vdl = py::cast<py::list>(value);
         if (py::len(vdl) > 0)
           {
             if(py::isinstance<double>(vdl[0]))
@@ -59,7 +59,7 @@ namespace ngcore
 
     if (py::isinstance<py::tuple>(value))
       {
-        py::tuple vdt(value);
+        auto vdt = py::cast<py::tuple>(value);
         if (py::isinstance<py::float_>(value))
           flags.SetFlag(s, makeCArray<double>(vdt));
         if (py::isinstance<py::int_>(value))
@@ -69,29 +69,32 @@ namespace ngcore
       }
   }
 
-  Flags CreateFlagsFromKwArgs(py::object pyclass, const py::kwargs& kwargs, py::list info)
+  Flags CreateFlagsFromKwArgs(const py::kwargs& kwargs, py::object pyclass, py::list info)
   {
     static std::shared_ptr<Logger> logger = GetLogger("Flags");
-    auto flags_doc = pyclass.attr("__flags_doc__")();
     py::dict flags_dict;
 
     if (kwargs.contains("flags"))
       {
-        logger->warn("WARNING: using flags as kwarg is deprecated in {}, use the flag arguments as kwargs instead!",
-                     std::string(py::str(pyclass)));
+        logger->warn("WARNING: using flags as kwarg is deprecated{}, use the flag arguments as kwargs instead!",
+                     pyclass.is_none() ? "" : std::string(" in ") + std::string(py::str(pyclass)));
         auto addflags = py::cast<py::dict>(kwargs["flags"]);
         for (auto item : addflags)
           flags_dict[item.first.cast<string>().c_str()] = item.second;
       }
-    for (auto item : kwargs)
-      if (!flags_doc.contains(item.first.cast<string>().c_str()) &&
-          !(item.first.cast<string>() == "flags"))
-        logger->warn("WARNING: kwarg '{}' is an undocumented flags option for class {}, maybe there is a typo?",
-                     item.first.cast<string>(), std::string(py::str(pyclass)));
-
     py::dict special;
-    if(py::hasattr(pyclass,"__special_treated_flags__"))
-      special = pyclass.attr("__special_treated_flags__")();
+    if(!pyclass.is_none())
+      {
+        auto flags_doc = pyclass.attr("__flags_doc__")();
+        for (auto item : kwargs)
+          if (!flags_doc.contains(item.first.cast<string>().c_str()) &&
+              !(item.first.cast<string>() == "flags"))
+            logger->warn("WARNING: kwarg '{}' is an undocumented flags option for class {}, maybe there is a typo?",
+                         item.first.cast<string>(), std::string(py::str(pyclass)));
+      
+        if(py::hasattr(pyclass,"__special_treated_flags__"))
+          special = pyclass.attr("__special_treated_flags__")();
+      }
     for (auto item : kwargs)
       {
         auto name = item.first.cast<string>();
@@ -116,4 +119,47 @@ namespace ngcore
     return flags;
   }
 
+  py::dict CreateDictFromFlags(const Flags& flags)
+  {
+    py::dict d;
+    std::string key;
+    for(auto i : Range(flags.GetNFlagsFlags()))
+      {
+        auto& f = flags.GetFlagsFlag(i, key);
+        d[key.c_str()] = CreateDictFromFlags(f);
+      }
+    for(auto i : Range(flags.GetNStringListFlags()))
+      {
+        auto strlistflag = flags.GetStringListFlag(i, key);
+        py::list lst;
+        for(auto& val : *strlistflag)
+          lst.append(val);
+        d[key.c_str()] = lst;
+      }
+    for(auto i : Range(flags.GetNNumListFlags()))
+      {
+        auto numlistflag = flags.GetNumListFlag(i, key);
+        py::list lst;
+        for(auto& val : *numlistflag)
+          lst.append(val);
+        d[key.c_str()] = lst;
+      }
+    for(auto i : Range(flags.GetNStringFlags()))
+      {
+        auto val = flags.GetStringFlag(i, key);
+        d[key.c_str()] = val;
+      }
+    for(auto i : Range(flags.GetNNumFlags()))
+      {
+        auto val = flags.GetNumFlag(i, key);
+        d[key.c_str()] = val;
+      }
+    for(auto i : Range(flags.GetNDefineFlags()))
+      {
+        auto val = flags.GetDefineFlag(i, key);
+        d[key.c_str()] = val;
+      }
+    return d;
+  }
+
 } // namespace ngcore
diff --git a/libsrc/core/python_ngcore.hpp b/libsrc/core/python_ngcore.hpp
index 562467cc..7a2fe5b2 100644
--- a/libsrc/core/python_ngcore.hpp
+++ b/libsrc/core/python_ngcore.hpp
@@ -16,10 +16,9 @@ namespace ngcore
   Array<T> makeCArray(const py::object& obj)
   {
     Array<T> arr;
-    arr.SetAllocSize(py::len(obj));
     if(py::isinstance<py::list>(obj))
-      for(auto& val : py::cast<py::list>(obj))
-        arr.Append(py::cast<T>(val));
+        for(auto& val : py::cast<py::list>(obj))
+          arr.Append(py::cast<T>(val));
     else if(py::isinstance<py::tuple>(obj))
       for(auto& val : py::cast<py::tuple>(obj))
         arr.Append(py::cast<T>(val));
@@ -30,7 +29,10 @@ namespace ngcore
   
   void NGCORE_API SetFlag(Flags &flags, std::string s, py::object value);
   // Parse python kwargs to flags
-  Flags NGCORE_API CreateFlagsFromKwArgs(py::object pyclass, const py::kwargs& kwargs, py::list info = py::list());
+  Flags NGCORE_API CreateFlagsFromKwArgs(const py::kwargs& kwargs, py::object pyclass = py::none(),
+                                         py::list info = py::list());
+  // Create python dict from kwargs
+  py::dict NGCORE_API CreateDictFromFlags(const Flags& flags);
 
   // ***************  Archiving functionality  **************
   
diff --git a/libsrc/meshing/python_mesh.hpp b/libsrc/meshing/python_mesh.hpp
index 2a808509..62a85778 100644
--- a/libsrc/meshing/python_mesh.hpp
+++ b/libsrc/meshing/python_mesh.hpp
@@ -1,5 +1,9 @@
+#ifndef NETGEN_MESHING_PYTHON_MESH_HPP
+#define NETGEN_MESHING_PYTHON_MESH_HPP
 
 #include <pybind11/pybind11.h>
+
+#include <core/python_ngcore.hpp>
 #include "meshing.hpp"
 
 namespace netgen
@@ -168,7 +172,10 @@ inline void CreateMPfromKwargs(MeshingParameters& mp, py::kwargs kwargs, bool th
     {
       if(throw_if_not_all_parsed)
         throw Exception(string("Not all kwargs given to GenerateMesh could be parsed:") + string(py::str(kwargs)));
-      mp.geometrySpecificParameters = kwargs;
+      mp.geometrySpecificParameters = CreateFlagsFromKwArgs(kwargs);
     }
   }
 } // namespace netgen
+
+#endif // NETGEN_MESHING_PYTHON_MESH_HPP
+ 
diff --git a/libsrc/stlgeom/python_stl.cpp b/libsrc/stlgeom/python_stl.cpp
index 180b5e56..33df2fc8 100644
--- a/libsrc/stlgeom/python_stl.cpp
+++ b/libsrc/stlgeom/python_stl.cpp
@@ -32,7 +32,7 @@ edgecornerangle: float =
 
 )delimiter";
 
-void CreateSTLParametersFromKwargs(STLParameters& stlparam, py::kwargs kwargs)
+void CreateSTLParametersFromKwargs(STLParameters& stlparam, py::dict kwargs)
 {
   if(kwargs.contains("yangle"))
     stlparam.yangle = py::cast<double>(kwargs.attr("pop")("yangle"));
@@ -198,14 +198,14 @@ DLL_HEADER void ExportSTL(py::module & m)
                              STLParameters stlparam;
                              if(pars)
                              {
-                               if(pars->geometrySpecificParameters.has_value() &&
-                                  (pars->geometrySpecificParameters.type() == typeid(py::kwargs)))
+                               try
                                {
-                                 auto mp_kwargs = any_cast<py::kwargs>(pars->geometrySpecificParameters);
-                                 py::print("geometry specific kwargs:", mp_kwargs);
+                                 auto mp_flags = any_cast<Flags>(pars->geometrySpecificParameters);
+                                 auto mp_kwargs = CreateDictFromFlags(mp_flags);
                                  CreateSTLParametersFromKwargs(stlparam, mp_kwargs);
                                  pars->geometrySpecificParameters.reset();
                                }
+                               catch(std::bad_any_cast) {}
                                mp = *pars;
                              }
                              CreateSTLParametersFromKwargs(stlparam, kwargs);